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Posted by Pippa at 14:45 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008

Hi, our next event in the South West is a Bring and Scoff with a talk about maritime Canada, which is the breeding ground of the Great Northern Diver.  I was wondering what GN related food could be taken - what about eggs (!), fish and chocolate...!  Has anyone got any more ideas?

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Posted by Geraint Lewis at 15:16 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008

How about strawberries? In honour of a certain character's pyjamas?

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Posted by Owen Roberts at 16:33 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008

Possibly, if you like it, roast duck rather than chicken. Duck is at it's best this time of year.

Certainly duck eggs, which would also link to Swallowdale. Beware they are very filling.

It might be worth wrapping them in heather for presentation.

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Posted by Anonymous at 20:16 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008
The loon or Great Northern Diver is not limited to maritime Canada but is found all across the country. I have swum with loons in a lake in Central Ontario hundreds of miles from the nearest salt water. Some more typically Canadian food would include maple syrup and barbecued salmon (on a cedar plank if you are feeling fancy) or pork ribs as well as the more usual hamburgers. If you want maritime Canadian food add in lobsters, shellfish or cod (if you can find it). Adam Quinan, Toronto

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Posted by Anonymous at 21:03 on Wed, Oct 15, 2008

Previously Owen Roberts wrote:

Possibly, if you like it, roast duck rather than chicken. Duck is at it's best this time of year.

Certainly duck eggs, which would also link to Swallowdale. Beware they are very filling.

It might be worth wrapping them in heather for presentation.

Isn't there mention of a very dark sticky cake that Ian has in the pict house? This could be black bun - a sort of fruit cake in a pastry case traditional at Hogmanay, but apparently originally eaten on Twelfth Night.

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Posted by Pippa at 14:11 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008

Excellent ideas, thanks all of you - keep them coming!  Great to hear from Adam in Canada too.  Interesting to learn that a loon = a GND, and is found all over Canada.   Oh yes, Geraint,  I'd  totally forgotten about Jemmerling's pink pyjamas!  

While we are on the subject of food, can any of you remember anyone ever eating bananas in the AR books?  They seem to eat a lot of apples, but I know bananas were fairly scarce in the 30s and 40s in England.   And do they eat any other fruit? 

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Posted by Robin Marshall at 16:08 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008

Curried eggs and oranges to cool the tongue afterwards, Missee Lee,

I seem to recall banana's but not sure

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Posted by Anonymous at 16:48 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008

Previously Pippa wrote:

While we are on the subject of food, can any of you remember anyone ever eating bananas in the AR books?  They seem to eat a lot of apples, but I know bananas were fairly scarce in the 30s and 40s in England.   And do they eat any other fruit? 

I think that bananas appear in SA- they are hung from a tree, so the Swallows can 'pick' them. It's easy to see why apples are popular- they don't squish easily. Imagine the result of carrying apricots up Kanchenjunga!

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Posted by Owen Roberts at 17:50 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008

Previously Pippa wrote:

I think bananas appeared in SA. Wern't they tied to a tree to give a natural look?

While we are on the subject of food, can any of you remember anyone ever eating bananas in the AR books?  They seem to eat a lot of apples, but I know bananas were fairly scarce in the 30s and 40s in England.   And do they eat any other fruit? 

 

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Posted by Geraint Lewis at 22:12 on Thu, Oct 16, 2008

Previously Pippa wrote:

While we are on the subject of food, can any of you remember anyone ever eating bananas in the AR books?   

Yes, like Robin, Owen and Anonymous, I recall bananas, too: I think John offered one to Sammy the Policeman when he came to call?

Returning to Great Northern? food, how about sandwiches wrapped in noisy paper? I seem to recall Dick struggling with this whilst in his hide. Perhaps you could have a competition, with a prize for the person who can unwrap their sandwich without making a noise?

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Posted by Robin Marshall at 14:11 on Fri, Oct 17, 2008

Back to Bananas, Blackberry and Banana Mash, Secret Water

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Posted by Geraint Lewis at 11:21 on Sat, Oct 18, 2008

Or back to Great Northern? food? Glancing at chapter 2, it looks as if Peggy and Susan agreed that "macaroni and tomato with poached eggs" was just right after bringing the Sea Bear to her anchorage in the fog. To be strictly accurate, you ought to have a duet on the accordian and penny whistle playing in the background whilst it is being prepared...

Alternately, there's always venison, but the McGinty might not approve!

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Posted by Pippa at 11:59 on Mon, Oct 20, 2008

I wish my knowledge of the books was as good as yours - must be time to re-read them...

Great ideas -will try blackberry and banana mash sometime, Robin.  It sounds delicious!  Fun activities suggested by Geraint too!     

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Posted by David Bamford at 18:01 on Mon, Oct 20, 2008

I wish that I still had my wee book of Scottish cuisine to refer to.  Still, bannocks would travel easily and well; while Cock-a-leekie Soup, whilch is absolutlee scrumptious, would be difficult to transport.  Perhaps a 'google' on Scottish cookery might yield some good ideas.

David Bamford

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Posted by Anonymous at 12:05 on Tue, Oct 21, 2008

Previously Pippa wrote:

I wish my knowledge of the books was as good as yours - must be time to re-read them...

Great ideas -will try blackberry and banana mash sometime, Robin.  It sounds delicious!  Fun activities suggested by Geraint too!     

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Posted by Geraint Lewis at 18:01 on Tue, Oct 21, 2008

I fear you've got me thinking again, Pippa. Towards the end of Great Northern? we're told that Roger found the McGinty and his son "hogging" on the terrace. Unfortunately, we're not told what it is they were "hogging", but we are told that the piper was entertaining them as they ate.

So perhaps you need to add a kilted piper to the penny whistler and accordian player at your GN? feast?

Previously Pippa wrote:

I wish my knowledge of the books was as good as yours - must be time to re-read them...

Great ideas -will try blackberry and banana mash sometime, Robin.  It sounds delicious!  Fun activities suggested by Geraint too!     

 

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Posted by Pippa at 22:36 on Tue, Oct 21, 2008

More and more fun - I think we may have to improvise with a CD of Scottish music playing in the background!! 

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Posted by Sian Mountbatten at 13:02 on Thu, Sep 03, 2009

Previously Pippa wrote:

Excellent ideas, thanks all of you - keep them coming!  Great to hear from Adam in Canada too.  Interesting to learn that a loon = a GND, and is found all over Canada.   Oh yes, Geraint,  I'd  totally forgotten about Jemmerling's pink pyjamas! 

While we are on the subject of food, can any of you remember anyone ever eating bananas in the AR books?  They seem to eat a lot of apples, but I know bananas were fairly scarce in the 30s and 40s in England.   And do they eat any other fruit? 

 The children do eat bananas. Certainly in Peter Duck, and also in SA on Wild Cat.

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Posted by Sian Mountbatten at 15:36 on Mon, Sep 07, 2009

Banana and blackberry mash in SW.

Previously Pippa wrote:

Excellent ideas, thanks all of you - keep them coming!  Great to hear from Adam in Canada too.  Interesting to learn that a loon = a GND, and is found all over Canada.   Oh yes, Geraint,  I'd  totally forgotten about Jemmerling's pink pyjamas!  

While we are on the subject of food, can any of you remember anyone ever eating bananas in the AR books?  They seem to eat a lot of apples, but I know bananas were fairly scarce in the 30s and 40s in England.   And do they eat any other fruit? 

 

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Posted by Alastair Poole at 20:57 on Sun, Sep 13, 2009

How about red herrings as a dish?"it was hard to say who were the leaders of the red herrings.Susan and Peggy were in charge,but naturally they depended on the guides." Might be difficult to get as I don't think you can buy them in the supermarket(or anywhere else for that matter!).But how about some herrings in some sort of tomato sauce?Another idea, its not mentioned in GN but I bet they had Bunloaf, heres a recipe that I find is relatively easy and tastes great:

Ingredients
275 g (10 oz) self-raising flour
4 oz (100 g) margarine
1/3 cup (75 g) 3oz castor sugar
2 eggs, beaten
2 teaspoons marmalade
3 oz (75 g) sultanas (golden raisins)
3 oz (75 g) currants
little milk
caster sugar (superfine granulated) for sprinkling
 
Method
1. Sift the flour into a bowl. Rub in the margarine, then stir in the sugar, eggs, marmalade, sultanas and currants.

2. Bind to a medium stiff mixture with milk, then turn into a greased 500 g (l lb) loaf tin.

3. Sprinkle the top with caster sugar and bake in a preheated moderately hot oven 190‚°C (375‚°F) Gas Mark 5 for 1 hour.
 
By the way, today I purchased WDMTGTS and SD  books that had never been opened from a second hand bookshop in lyme regis for just £6,what a bargain!

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Posted by Rob Boden at 10:41 on Wed, Oct 21, 2009

Pippa -

 

you seem to have a choice of three routes: Canadian style food, Hebridean food, or what they are likely to have eaten on the Sea Bear.

 

On the Sea Bear, they seem to have taken most of their food with them. When they go back in to Stornoway all they need is milk and bread.

 

Re Hebridean food: we've just come back from a few days on Lewis, staying in one of the low thatched cottages of the Gaels - the blackhouse village at Gearrannan. In the 1930's/40's, Lewis was mainly a crofting island, so the main foods were oats, barley and potatoes (so oatcakes would be good), sheep (lamb or even haggis), and some cows (crowdie cheese too) - there would be rabbits too and other wild game. Hens eggs or wild eggs - not Great Northern Divers'. And lots of fish, herrings, mackerel, maybe salmon and trout though rivers such as the Fhorsa that AR fished on would be in private hands.  Also shellfish. Not many vegetables, though broth with barley is common. For pudding, cranachan made with toasted oatmeal, cream and raspberries is excellent.  

 

One of the Stornoway classics is black, and white, puddings, especially made by MacLeod & MacLeod (started in 1931), though C. MacLeod also makes them.

 

The names of dishes in Scots is almost poetic: bawd bree (hare soup), cabbieclaw (cod in egg sauce), crappit heids (stuffed haddock heads), clapshot (mashed potato and turnip), cullen skink (haddock soup). 

 

Uig Lodge is available for rent, at £4,855 per week in summer months - sleeps 15. Gearrannan have a 16 bed cottage for £163 a night, two five bedded cottages at £86 a night, or the cottage for 2 is £63. September to May prices are c.£20 lower. There is also a Youth Hostel in one of the cottages at Gearrannan at £8 a night each!

 

Rob

 

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